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» Reply to this Comment « ExNewYorker? says: July 16, 2010 at 1:29 pm I think Athlone is correcl on all his points, and especially in the last one. We “originally beta men” were rational, pursuing the girls in our league. Heck, at a Sci/Tech or Ivy, the women will be reasonably cute, but not models. As beta guys, we understood we might have to “setlle”, but we tried to find other qualities to compensate.

Of course, this didn’t work, and eventually we looked around to see those who had success so we learned some game, and the hotties that who were originally out of our league, now started returning our calls. Of course, most of the “hotties” were anything but good LTR material (good for a STR or hookup), so then the task becomes finding a worthwhile LTR, which Athlone correctly adds that the marriage laws make the decision to commit in that way less and less appealing.

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Susan Walsh Reply: July 16th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

Yes, Athlone is extremely smart and perceptive. Wise well beyond his years. My main concern (Athlone, are you listening?) is that he is absorbing some of Roissy et al’s cynicism. Honestly, hanging out with those guys can be problematic for a young man, IMO. Roissy clearly has a completely inability to emotionally attach, and he’s made a name for himself celebrating that. He inhabits an ugly world. The fact that he will have avoided a financially ruinous marriage doesn’t make him or his ilk successful in life. Or love. Or much of anything really. . The marriage climate in the U.S. sucks. I get it. I don’t really see how the alternative is any better. Yeah, hang on to your dollars, guaranteed, and practice a lifetime of serial monogamy or just have sex with whomever. Idk, maybe that’s a guy’s ideal life. If so, that sucks for the good women.

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Athlone McGinnis? Reply: July 17th, 2010 at 1:40 am